The site owners could also act on other various levels : I want to say the following. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. Prices do not include additional fees, such as shipping . I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). Hopefully that would make squids to react. Don't know if it's already mentioned in this thread, but in TS you have a refund system, when customer buyed your product has ability to bring back his money and it'll subracted from your earnings, if he doesn't like a model for some reason. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. [quote]2. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). Regarding the support case, perhaps you could share the exact details on the case by a message or email to me (dalia@cgtrader.com) - we would like to look more into it and ensure that no cases like that are unsolved. All because of search. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. With the support of a strong community we can get this thing going, don't worry about that. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. I'm not sure about your analysis. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. I did not know about that. If anyone has been to New York they will have noticed that Fao Swartz a toy store in the center of Manhattan is creating 3D printable action figures. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. Hi adentonclark, What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. Yes indeed! It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? Its great way to compete and fair . I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. With only a few days on CG trader, i can already see it is miles ahead of turbosquid. We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. Allot of snags and details need to be worked out in order to make this sorts of things happen but the main idea here is to have complimentary forces working together to make a better product. He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. I mean the good/bad rating left by buyers. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. Better for who? There are currently no models in your cart. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. How about the Royalty Rate??? But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. Female 3D models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. For example, I ran into this this morning. TurboCrooks should be boycotted by artists since they are the one responsible for the situation! And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. It is all about customer reputation and perception. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. We've been on TS over 20 years and on CG trader since their start. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. Cgtrader have more favorable royalty rates, compared to TurboSquid. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Cgtrader user interface is much more user friendly. I think this computer graphics industry just needs a well known and established hub specific to our profession, and one that is being run with good core principals like we see it here on CGt. So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. It takes way too long to put up any files. The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? Agree with every word above. "Even being a diamond doesnt seem to give me the benefits of sale coz TS takes so much from my sales (everyone's sale) that i would hardly call it profit or any acceptable income. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. Just my fifty cents. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. CGT is the only website that really understand both the artists and customer needs! I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. NoneCG will be up for it. On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856?referral=pit_zavra I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? Maybe they should just smack up one big "We're cheaper than TurboSquid" banner and push it into Google Ads? This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble. So if you think about that when we try selling just 3D models we are actually loosing a great deal of the market. just 2 years ago still existed. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. If you have any questions about these. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! That thing is just getting started ;-). Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. --GENERAL--. Not that I like it or want to have my objects "borrowed". Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. 4. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. This is the Tesla Model 3. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. Change Method. And also because of the complete isolation of the seller-buyer. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). There are lots of fun ways can gain points on cg trader . You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. Saied this couple of times in the past, leverage the difference in royalty to provide a slightly better offer over here, otherwise customers hoe have a Ts account will see no need to make one here to buy same model for same price. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . The sellers for which, CGtrader liked can help for this resource. In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. We previously sent you final warnings about your non-compliance with our Best Prices policy. Hello. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! @limonadinis My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! I remember that too! Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. People are followers they have always been and always will be. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. You can upload a 20 mb large model here with 3 formats, 20 photos, 100 wording text, 20 tags in around 20 minutes. See the reputation, see the response rate, realise the problem will be fixed. Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. ! Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. Yep.. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. [a=http://www.google.com] google6[/a] Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. A real pointless task. Turbosquid.com4. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. If it is true that other sites are taking a higher margin and a larger slice of profit share, they have some kind of capital to work magic with, both with artists who are accepting less and buyers who are paying more. In fact I hope that once buyers begin to see the difference in quality on this site they will jump ship but the thing that still trips up CGTrader is the consumer confidence. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. I hope ideas of exclusivity get replaced by inclusive ones all over the globe. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. TS is simply in decline getting worse and worse. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. So it was sorted in your favor afterall? . TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. I'd rather look into ways to create my own site, cause it's a bit tedious to sift through neverending site rules from neverending projects. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. I hope I'll have better selling results there. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. In regards to product awareness and marketing it is also nice to have some special user cases to show off, there is no room to collect user case data in the Ts model. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations.